Status of the Order
Dec 12, 2018 0:07:26 GMT -7
Post by Darth Draconis on Dec 12, 2018 0:07:26 GMT -7
The announcement members first came across in the 4th incarnation of this Order, in Aug. 2013:
The "old forum" referred to seems to be gone, which is fine, but the forum this announcement was posted in is still around, and will remain so for the foreseeable future, an "abandoned temple" like I described about the version of the site that came before it: www.tapatalk.com/groups/orderofthesith/index.php
After we had to move on from that site to a new web host Luciana bought the domain name and set it up as her own; that is not a complaint, she's a Lady of the Sith and fully capable of running an Order as I, Miles, and Khaos all have. However since the move I've been in a kind of self-imposed exile, unexpectedly at first and then deliberately, until I felt more genuinely moved to return, until I had an actual reason besides nostalgia or a sense of 'duty' or 'obligation' to the Order or its members.
Unfortunately, when I arrived and posted an intro, I was given a fairly cold reception by the new Dark Lady, uncalled for but easily shrugged off. I am not terribly concerned with the disrespect, or even with me specifically not retaining my rank; what I blew up over was the stripping of ranks from the Order as a whole. I'd be perfectly fine with her reinstating the rank system and pointedly leaving me out as a "registered user" indefinitely, so long as they're brought back.
It's not about "poor me", though I do not recognize her authority to strip me or anyone else of title even with the rank system in place, but I'm also fine with stating my case as to why that's bullshit (as I already have) and then continuing about my business regardless of the petty demonstrations of imagined dominance over the membership that the new leadership seems to suffer from (and I could be wrong on that last count, but idk, I s'pose I'll find out soon).
In any case, I'm not sure I'll even be afforded the same mutual respect and consideration that previously existed between me and the other Lords of the Sith there, let along be listened to as I continue to voice my concerns about the erosion of cultural infrastructure and connective tissues these ranks and titles represent and essentially function as for members. I'm truly concerned far more with that than with any petty personal bullshit about my rank or whether she think I "deserve" it according to her judgement. It's not up to her and I'll argue the point, sure, but that's not what I'm even talking about.
The abolishment of the ranks, the lack of site growth, the seeming lack of ambition or willingness to pursue her very own stated vision (which I'd thought included ranks, possibly subject to being reworked, but not destroyed) really does have me wondering if I want get banned for disagreeing to strongly or directly challenging or criticizing site wide decisions likethe one she just made on getting rid of the ranks in their entirety, because they're apparently "idiotic" in her view.
So here we are; I've begun reconstructing the Order in my own image to make a point about the ranks by rebuilding the Order on my own terms, as a direct competitor to her Order, to demonstrate the superiority of an Order with ranks (however loosely define or enforced, though don't expect me to be that loose) to an Order without them. I do not intend to compete with her long term, and I am not challenging the legitimacy of her lordship or even her right or ability to run the "real" Order of the Sith. Hopefully at some point in the near future I can direct the membership here (after it's grown sizable enough) to the Order as it exists under her. But I'm here for the time being because I'm not at all sure I'll be allowed, with her style of leadership, the freedom to demonstrate what I'm getting at in regarding ranks and titles.
Based on her remarks about my rank in particular and my apparently newfound unworthiness to sport the title of Sith Lord in her view (even though, in seeming contradiction to that, they're all "idiotic" and "meaningless" too lol), I have no interest in being punitively restricted from access to several of the forums there I previously had access to, for no good reason, or from materials of any kind there. I don't feel like putting up with that sort of pettiness, have done nothing to merit the kind of treatment or attitude I was "welcomed" with upon my return, and feel my time would be better spent on doing somewhere what i'd come back to do there. If that calls for rebuilding the Order on my own terms, so be it.
I'd thought about using a blog, as I have in the past, but I currently use wordpress under another name and while I still have the account there with this username I haven't logged in for ages. I don't remember the password, and have no desire to jump back and forth on that platform between Sith oriented materials and the other stuff I've been up to. For what I've come back to the Order for, it needs to be bigger than that anyways, less isolationist, and available to an active membership that exists within the same framework I do, rather than people who are simply subscribers or followers.
All that to say, you can go visit and join up with the 5th incarnation that came after the last one I carried forward: www.orderofthesith.org/forum
You will probably find me active there soon, too, but I will be focusing on the site you're now reading this post on for the next few weeks and will prioritize where I spend my time accordingly. If I become convinced the Order as run by Luciana is, in fact, a lost cause then at least this newest and 6th incarnation will serve as a fallback for me and any other Sith who come to feel the same way. Hopefully it doesn't come to that (I don't particularly want to get stuck running a site on my own again) but if that's the way shit unfolds I'm perfectly capable of rolling with the punches and adapting as needed.
Expect further announcements soon, less to do with the other site Luciana owns and runs, and more to do with what is and will be going on here. Also might want to keep an eye out for lectures and other materials as I move forward here. Whether you know me and are familiar with the path of the Sith, or you're totally knew and have no idea who I am, feel free to post in the intro thread and say hello.
Since October of 2006, the Order of the Sith has endured three past recreations. This, here, is the fourth time. While the reasons are different now than they have been in the past, there were still a number of reasons to move on from the previous web hosting, as touched on in the initial announcement for our relocation. Also stated in it, and worth repeating, is that the old forum will remain accessible for those that would like to delve into its contents. It will be, in essence, an abandoned temple - filled with things of potential value and preserved for anyone that might take an interest in mining it for inspiration, or information. But aside from that, the old site is now officially closed in every other way, and we, here, are officially open for business. So despite the fact that some of you have been here for days I'd still like to say, welcome to the fourth incarnation of the Order of the Sith.
The "old forum" referred to seems to be gone, which is fine, but the forum this announcement was posted in is still around, and will remain so for the foreseeable future, an "abandoned temple" like I described about the version of the site that came before it: www.tapatalk.com/groups/orderofthesith/index.php
After we had to move on from that site to a new web host Luciana bought the domain name and set it up as her own; that is not a complaint, she's a Lady of the Sith and fully capable of running an Order as I, Miles, and Khaos all have. However since the move I've been in a kind of self-imposed exile, unexpectedly at first and then deliberately, until I felt more genuinely moved to return, until I had an actual reason besides nostalgia or a sense of 'duty' or 'obligation' to the Order or its members.
Unfortunately, when I arrived and posted an intro, I was given a fairly cold reception by the new Dark Lady, uncalled for but easily shrugged off. I am not terribly concerned with the disrespect, or even with me specifically not retaining my rank; what I blew up over was the stripping of ranks from the Order as a whole. I'd be perfectly fine with her reinstating the rank system and pointedly leaving me out as a "registered user" indefinitely, so long as they're brought back.
It's not about "poor me", though I do not recognize her authority to strip me or anyone else of title even with the rank system in place, but I'm also fine with stating my case as to why that's bullshit (as I already have) and then continuing about my business regardless of the petty demonstrations of imagined dominance over the membership that the new leadership seems to suffer from (and I could be wrong on that last count, but idk, I s'pose I'll find out soon).
In any case, I'm not sure I'll even be afforded the same mutual respect and consideration that previously existed between me and the other Lords of the Sith there, let along be listened to as I continue to voice my concerns about the erosion of cultural infrastructure and connective tissues these ranks and titles represent and essentially function as for members. I'm truly concerned far more with that than with any petty personal bullshit about my rank or whether she think I "deserve" it according to her judgement. It's not up to her and I'll argue the point, sure, but that's not what I'm even talking about.
The abolishment of the ranks, the lack of site growth, the seeming lack of ambition or willingness to pursue her very own stated vision (which I'd thought included ranks, possibly subject to being reworked, but not destroyed) really does have me wondering if I want get banned for disagreeing to strongly or directly challenging or criticizing site wide decisions likethe one she just made on getting rid of the ranks in their entirety, because they're apparently "idiotic" in her view.
So here we are; I've begun reconstructing the Order in my own image to make a point about the ranks by rebuilding the Order on my own terms, as a direct competitor to her Order, to demonstrate the superiority of an Order with ranks (however loosely define or enforced, though don't expect me to be that loose) to an Order without them. I do not intend to compete with her long term, and I am not challenging the legitimacy of her lordship or even her right or ability to run the "real" Order of the Sith. Hopefully at some point in the near future I can direct the membership here (after it's grown sizable enough) to the Order as it exists under her. But I'm here for the time being because I'm not at all sure I'll be allowed, with her style of leadership, the freedom to demonstrate what I'm getting at in regarding ranks and titles.
Based on her remarks about my rank in particular and my apparently newfound unworthiness to sport the title of Sith Lord in her view (even though, in seeming contradiction to that, they're all "idiotic" and "meaningless" too lol), I have no interest in being punitively restricted from access to several of the forums there I previously had access to, for no good reason, or from materials of any kind there. I don't feel like putting up with that sort of pettiness, have done nothing to merit the kind of treatment or attitude I was "welcomed" with upon my return, and feel my time would be better spent on doing somewhere what i'd come back to do there. If that calls for rebuilding the Order on my own terms, so be it.
I'd thought about using a blog, as I have in the past, but I currently use wordpress under another name and while I still have the account there with this username I haven't logged in for ages. I don't remember the password, and have no desire to jump back and forth on that platform between Sith oriented materials and the other stuff I've been up to. For what I've come back to the Order for, it needs to be bigger than that anyways, less isolationist, and available to an active membership that exists within the same framework I do, rather than people who are simply subscribers or followers.
All that to say, you can go visit and join up with the 5th incarnation that came after the last one I carried forward: www.orderofthesith.org/forum
You will probably find me active there soon, too, but I will be focusing on the site you're now reading this post on for the next few weeks and will prioritize where I spend my time accordingly. If I become convinced the Order as run by Luciana is, in fact, a lost cause then at least this newest and 6th incarnation will serve as a fallback for me and any other Sith who come to feel the same way. Hopefully it doesn't come to that (I don't particularly want to get stuck running a site on my own again) but if that's the way shit unfolds I'm perfectly capable of rolling with the punches and adapting as needed.
Expect further announcements soon, less to do with the other site Luciana owns and runs, and more to do with what is and will be going on here. Also might want to keep an eye out for lectures and other materials as I move forward here. Whether you know me and are familiar with the path of the Sith, or you're totally knew and have no idea who I am, feel free to post in the intro thread and say hello.