VixenV
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Post by VixenV on Jun 9, 2023 15:19:01 GMT -7
Sith have this concept of "the code". The code speaks of passion and strength and power and freedom to do what the fuck ever we want to do, right? Sith live outside of moral codes and social norms and we break traditional boundaries that Sith feel hold them back. This is the metaphorical breaking of chains in the Sith worldview.
But does this philosophy mean it's OK for Sith to be bullies? If Sith have power, is it not only ok but encouraged to use that power against others that are weaker? Is direct intimidation and threats of violence against those we disagree with a part of the Sith tool box?
Or is there a balance that Sith maintain? A careful walk between passivity and outright violence where manipulation, gentle coercion, strength of leadership and even submission to gain loyalty exist?
Are Sith psychopaths that delight in sadism? Are Sith serial or spree killers that delight in gore and violence and destruction?
Or are Sith something deeper than any of these ideas?
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 12, 2023 21:08:46 GMT -7
It's impossible for a Sith to be a bully to another Sith. If you wish to carry the name you must carry the burden. Words can bring you only so far before action must take effect, that is why Sith communities online are so fragile. You have claims of power going against claims of power with no physical result, which only concludes when words run out. Words are only are expression of are conclusive thoughts, they are not a show of power, there must be a physical show of power for there to be a conclusion that is satisfactory. So online Sithism will suffer from bully like behavior because this is the only place we know to come to show what we know to others that believe as we do, but online activity will never produce what we seek, because Words here have no consequence.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 12, 2023 21:18:22 GMT -7
I'd seen that you were talking about everyday circumstances but your question rang true for all the shit happening between you and kuria. You are trying to bully her out of here just like I was try to get you to leave. You know where I live, if you ever wish to go beyond being a cyber bully, I'll be your huckleberry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 8:56:38 GMT -7
It's impossible for a Sith to be a bully to another Sith. If you wish to carry the name you must carry the burden. Words can bring you only so far before action must take effect, that is why Sith communities online are so fragile. You have claims of power going against claims of power with no physical result, which only concludes when words run out. Words are only are expression of are conclusive thoughts, they are not a show of power, there must be a physical show of power for there to be a conclusion that is satisfactory. So online Sithism will suffer from bully like behavior because this is the only place we know to come to show what we know to others that believe as we do, but online activity will never produce what we seek, because Words here have no consequence. Actually kiddo they do have consequences, you're still in that age to where you think there are no consequences and have yet to face adult life. You are right that you have yet to really show us any merit about physical proof of your power. Words are meaningless and at least at the old oots we talked about our work that we are doing. People's words backed up by their actions had merit. It will suffer if sith continue to allow it, and until those in power which I highly doubt will start moderating it a bit more. Those that take things way to far should not be included as this once used to be a prestigious thing, it's now a shit pile where others can just throw around poo saying that's power. The lack of boundaries and things being to wide are what create unecessary tension for the untempered which is why shit falls apart. Pending on the individual and their thoughts egoism will destroy every order, utilitarianism will create possibly boundaries yet perhaps be to accommodating, and the list goes on. Until one finds proper balance each order will implode on itself and damaged people will damage others. Sure it's harrowing at it's finest because you grow desensitized or learn to hide your pain which eventually combusts. I really can't condone sithism because of the collective viewpoint and think there are better places to learn the same lessons. People can better an aspect by bettering themselves. Yet since no other adepts besides myself really wish to create a proper environment and have their own way to "eat the rude." it'll be what it is. Granted it has it's benefits and lessons. The hill is steep. You all can have fun posturing on the internet. The strong will stand out amidst the weaker ones. It is what it is. There is nothing one can do about it now because there isn't enough who can do anything bout it. People have this mentality to act differently online then in real life which is fine. However ip addresses can lead to a lot of personal information and no one can hide forever. Privacy is but an illusion even if one manages to hide, one can always be found out and consequences will pile up. So one should seek to protect their angles. Unrefined students are volatile yet eventually the temper themselves. I think a menace has its benefits yet eventually the menace loses power. Menaces are training tools to be used for others benefits so the weak can rise above the menace.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 9:03:54 GMT -7
Just because I am strong doesn't mean I still don't struggle and if I really killed myself vixen would be a murderer. You cannot count on the strength of others to continue your shit behaviour. Just like you cannot be taken seriously when you say shit and it really disempowers you kiddo. In my opinion you can think it's power but how others see you matters. You and vixen have a similar issue, you say shit that villainies you but then whine about how others see you. The mentor will make you into this wild unrefined animal who is a dumpster fire is what I foresee. This is the legacy of those of darth matter which is why I left the moron who was pretty flakey to begin with in my opinion.
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VixenV
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Post by VixenV on Jun 13, 2023 19:16:59 GMT -7
lol and the cycle continues. Kurai tried to force me from the dojo... in fact the entire internet. lycurious tried to force me from here. I tried to force kurai from here. lol
I don't know you lycurious but I know your kind. Your ilk are a dime a dozen. You're nothing special, just a meat head that has no cunning or subtle intelligence. You are a hammer and so you see the entire world as a nail. You are a one trick pony, one dimensional and boring. I have shown you a path to enlightenment, all you need do is take it up. But I know you won't, because you are too stupid.
Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not.
There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai. And there are those not worthy to even be called enemy like lycurious, because they are to easily defeated. I feel sorry for them while they dangle on my hook. And I release you, lycurioys, back to the wild. Grow up and try again though!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 9:13:12 GMT -7
lol and the cycle continues. Kurai tried to force me from the dojo... in fact the entire internet. lycurious tried to force me from here. I tried to force kurai from here. lol I don't know you lycurious but I know your kind. Your ilk are a dime a dozen. You're nothing special, just a meat head that has no cunning or subtle intelligence. You are a hammer and so you see the entire world as a nail. You are a one trick pony, one dimensional and boring. I have shown you a path to enlightenment, all you need do is take it up. But I know you won't, because you are too stupid. Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not. There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai. And there are those not worthy to even be called enemy like lycurious, because they are to easily defeated. I feel sorry for them while they dangle on my hook. And I release you, lycurioys, back to the wild. Grow up and try again though! "Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not. There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai." O.O uwu that's confusing, how can one respect someone yet also be enemies? How has my character improved, if I'm a theif and predator as you say?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 9:14:35 GMT -7
lol and the cycle continues. Kurai tried to force me from the dojo... in fact the entire internet. lycurious tried to force me from here. I tried to force kurai from here. lol I don't know you lycurious but I know your kind. Your ilk are a dime a dozen. You're nothing special, just a meat head that has no cunning or subtle intelligence. You are a hammer and so you see the entire world as a nail. You are a one trick pony, one dimensional and boring. I have shown you a path to enlightenment, all you need do is take it up. But I know you won't, because you are too stupid. Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not. There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai. And there are those not worthy to even be called enemy like lycurious, because they are to easily defeated. I feel sorry for them while they dangle on my hook. And I release you, lycurioys, back to the wild. Grow up and try again though! "Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not. There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai." O.O uwu that's confusing, how can one respect someone yet also be enemies? How has my character improved, if I'm a theif and predator as you say? why do you elevate me when trying to smack down others then smack at me lol? I noticed you did this with two people now. I'm genuinely curious here.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 14, 2023 12:26:04 GMT -7
I do understand that consequences are real, but what is said here has no threat to my well being. If you wish to come to me, or you want me to come to you I would be fine with that. But if you want to throw words at me then go find someone else. I don't mind having conversations here. There will always be those who attack the person instead of the topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 12:40:05 GMT -7
I do understand that consequences are real, but what is said here has no threat to my well being. If you wish to come to me, or you want me to come to you I would be fine with that. But if you want to throw words at me then go find someone else. I don't mind having conversations here. There will always be those who attack the person instead of the topic. *facepalms* The fact that you'd allow someone to come to you in your second life or say you'd show up at their house to fight shows what what you're lacking to be honest. I'm just calling you Ly for short, but I fear you'll find someone who accepts the come to my house challenge. It might be your end and while sith shouldn't fear death you are more self destructive than destructive towards anyone else. again this is the legacy of darth matter from the Facebook. Every apprentice I've seen has had these traits. Do you want to die because maybe you should add that in "Come to my adress and just kill me because I'm Ly and I have a death wish." While I don't think you should get hit because I don't want that to happen, I do think you should think about others who live in that house if there are any others. Think about other in case some coocoo person on the internet took that seriously. Think before you speak. Protect your angles. never just spout out your stupid adress, what the fuck man? You think that's power??? You don't think of how it affects you and you don't demonstrate it so again your response that you do has no merit.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 14, 2023 13:49:54 GMT -7
I don't think you understand what Sithism is. You think I'm foolish because I would physically support my claims? Why should conflict be feared? Why should I not test myself? It seems your fear holds you back from actually realizing how strong you could be.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 14, 2023 13:55:22 GMT -7
It is funny how you automatically think I'll lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 14:34:53 GMT -7
It is funny how you automatically think I'll lose. The only thing you've shown me is how loud of a mouth you have. That your violent, untamed, a dumpster fire, and the reputation of Darth matter proceeds to go to you as well due to his legacy. If I were foolish like you I'd be inviting everyone to come try to kill me. Internet safety matters and how one flexes power matters, I disagree with yours. Any sort of martial arts training doesn't matter because while we learn techniques, one never knows what will happen in a fight. You can spend all the hours in the world training on the mat yet when your faced with a real life or death situation....it's all about who can kill who first. It's not where you want to put yourself all the time to just prove yourself boy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 14:36:25 GMT -7
It is funny how you automatically think I'll lose. The only thing you've shown me is how loud of a mouth you have. That your violent, untamed, a dumpster fire, and the reputation of Darth matter proceeds to go to you as well due to his legacy. If I were foolish like you I'd be inviting everyone to come try to kill me. Internet safety matters and how one flexes power matters, I disagree with yours. Any sort of martial arts training doesn't matter because while we learn techniques, one never knows what will happen in a fight. You can spend all the hours in the world training on the mat yet when your faced with a real life or death situation....it's all about who can kill who first. It's not where you want to put yourself all the time to just prove yourself boy. Any emotion is helpful. Fear helps one temper the self so we don't become self destructive. You and Vixen are both foolish. Yet fear shouldn't also hold us back but you must face the consequences of each action one takes. Do want a criminal to show up and kill your family and those you love? Can you really protect everyone kiddo?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 14:37:12 GMT -7
The only thing you've shown me is how loud of a mouth you have. That your violent, untamed, a dumpster fire, and the reputation of Darth matter proceeds to go to you as well due to his legacy. If I were foolish like you I'd be inviting everyone to come try to kill me. Internet safety matters and how one flexes power matters, I disagree with yours. Any sort of martial arts training doesn't matter because while we learn techniques, one never knows what will happen in a fight. You can spend all the hours in the world training on the mat yet when your faced with a real life or death situation....it's all about who can kill who first. It's not where you want to put yourself all the time to just prove yourself boy. Any emotion is helpful. Fear helps one temper the self so we don't become self destructive. You and Vixen are both foolish. Yet fear shouldn't also hold us back but you must face the consequences of each action one takes. Do want a criminal to show up and kill your family and those you love? Can you really protect everyone kiddo? Can you take on more then one opponent and victor? I don't think so ^^yet I could be wrong. Yet those of us who are real martial artists don't talk like that, because we try to avoid that. You have no temperance and continue to show me what you lack and why your a fucking dumper fire. You have no value here to me at least. Throughout human life, from birth to death: There are one third who die naturally; There are one third who die from disease; And the other one third who die by speeding to death. For what reasons have they done so? Because they live by overdrawing upon their lives heavily. As I used to hear that: "One who takes good care of his life will not meet a rhinoceros or a tiger when he is traveling on land. He does not need to wear armour or carry weapons when he is leading an army." The rhinoceros finds no place to insert its horn. The tiger finds no place to put its claws. Weapons of war find no place to thrust their blades. For what reasons? Because one never lets himself be in a vulnerable situation." - Translated by Zi Chang Tang, Chapter 50
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 14:43:07 GMT -7
I think that constructive challenges like meeting up through honorable means to a competition can be helpful but that is less likely to happen. If there was a Sith Lord here who trained in taekwando I'd ask to meet with them to do a challenge. Why? So I can learn from my failures but it's not to do the death or through non conducive means. NO Mal intent. Just two individuals testing their mettle against each other.
I do that all the time iwth my senpai belts and win some I lose some. The black belts teach me a lot and even give me advice.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 14, 2023 17:35:31 GMT -7
I don't think you understand what Sithism is. You think I'm foolish because I would physically support my claims? Why should conflict be feared? Why should I not test myself? It seems your fear holds you back from actually realizing how strong you could be. No my friend, it is YOU that does not know what sithism is. Have you heard the words of Kurai? She is a true master of the path and her words ring true. If you can't see her truth or even recognize that you see something significant in her words that you need to discover, then you are not a darth. In fact you are less than an apprentice. You are nothing. Kurai is a master of life, taking what she wants and shedding what no longer serves her. Her journey has been a life long undertaking. Your journey is that of a pretender. Your kind is disgusting to our kind. And yes, kurai and I may be enemies, but we still recognize the true warrior within. You are an empty shell of broken dreams and promises whose only source of power is violence. Sith like kurai and I laugh in your feeble attempts to justify your existence. Live the life, embody the dream, Be a Sith! or get the fuck out of this place.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 14, 2023 18:51:53 GMT -7
It is funny how you automatically think I'll lose. It's because she knows me, you do not. your arrogance has gotten the better of your ability.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 14, 2023 18:54:29 GMT -7
Say what you will. I know you will do nothing.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 14, 2023 18:56:39 GMT -7
lol and the cycle continues. Kurai tried to force me from the dojo... in fact the entire internet. lycurious tried to force me from here. I tried to force kurai from here. lol I don't know you lycurious but I know your kind. Your ilk are a dime a dozen. You're nothing special, just a meat head that has no cunning or subtle intelligence. You are a hammer and so you see the entire world as a nail. You are a one trick pony, one dimensional and boring. I have shown you a path to enlightenment, all you need do is take it up. But I know you won't, because you are too stupid. Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not. There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai. And there are those not worthy to even be called enemy like lycurious, because they are to easily defeated. I feel sorry for them while they dangle on my hook. And I release you, lycurioys, back to the wild. Grow up and try again though! "Kurai is so much more Intelligent. She is an interesting creature of passion and multi talented and multi faceted. She is much more interesting to play with because she understands what it means to be a Sith. She has trained hard and suffered and persevered great strife and come out the other side a better person. And that shows in her character. She impresses me. You, lycurious, do not. There are worthy enemies I have respect for like kurai." O.O uwu that's confusing, how can one respect someone yet also be enemies? How has my character improved, if I'm a theif and predator as you say? There is one thing you have yet to learn about being Sith. An enemy is only an enemy if they are worthy of such a position. others are just a nuisance. I have never wanted to be your enemy, that is a place you have chosen, not I. but I respect the decision and I respect your prowess in that place. That's all there is too it. Others like lycurious do not rate the benefit of such a title, friend or enemy, at the level we have. This is simply because they have never proven themselves worthy. You know of the ways of the OotS. Embrace them.
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