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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 15:59:49 GMT -7
I know what you are doing and no you can't push me to upset me to then get angles on me. This convo ends here. You should've just kept the original message and we could've worked something out yet oh well maybe someday you'll get it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 16:02:50 GMT -7
I know what you are doing and no you can't push me to upset me to then get angles on me. This convo ends here. You should've just kept the original message and we could've worked something out yet oh well maybe someday you'll get it. I was preparing to refund you since you seemed to realize a few things but again you delayed it by going to lying mode. Sucks for you.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 16, 2023 16:07:29 GMT -7
You know what, your absolutely right. we are both toxic for each other. if I am a narcissist then so are you, and thats why we conflict. so how about you STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY FORUMS! And stay the fuck out of my threads here. And I shall do the same for you. Get off my back and pay me back the money you stole and then let bygones be bygones. If you can make things right then we are good. if not and you want to "report me"?? or whatever for something im trying to get back that is legally mine. we'll then I will just file suit against you in small claims for false fundraiser schemes. If you want to go there I'm willing.
As for cyber bullying I think you are much more guilty than I ever have been. You released my personal information to the modern sith and then sent them after me to harass me on line. You started a campaign to get me "banned from the internet" however that might work. You came onto the dojo to further harass and bully me. You came onto my private forum site and tried to turn all the members there against me. Just in this thread you have revealed private information about me that may put me in danger or expose me to further harassment. You manipulated me personally and extorted money from me under false pretenses. You have made up lies about me being an abuser and created fake documents as some inane attempt to prove your wild lies and accusations. The only true bully here is you my dear!
So I don't think you want to take things to that level since you are the actual guilty one here. So make things right and let it go. What do you say?
I see you had a reasonable response then went into this dumb ass shit again, so as far as stolen money it's not stolen. I needed to have the payment in earlier to receive my materials so they pushed it back to Jan 2024. Since they have to ship my books/training materials to me I should've put it in earlier but meh it's a learning process. Secondly we can subepana discord and we'll find you were not leaving me alone like now. We'll see you pushing me and me being victimized and then lashing out cause you caused me emotional/mental duress. The nexus reported to me what you did and I reported a few things so we can further investigate you to keep our sith community safe from criminals like you. Secondly I have a right to warn others about your revenge porn acts and your right that you are toxic which is why I will refund you when I can but on my time. but it's not my priority and honestly you can make up all the fake documents about me and then get in trouble for it. Lying to the court is wrong but by all means please make that mistake. But I suggest against it. Making up lies about tms (my friend terrant) is wrong and while I don't appreciate that we all know it's bullshit. Now shut it Burl. Lol wow you just did it again. good job, keep digging yourself in deeper. I have eye witnesses like zealot, Sasha and raven that witnessed the crimes you committed against me and continue to commit against me. I'm not the one to ever make up legal docs, you are the one that did that and if you think I don't have screen shots your absolutely wrong. so keep it up. I have the truth on my side and you have your continued lies! You are aggressive and demanding. I was the submissive in the relationship, you were the Dom. and you took advantage of me, simple as that. master apprentice yea I was the apprentice, you abused your position and your power and then tried to blame it in me. that is a textbook narcissistic cycle of abuse you perpetrated against me. And believe me, I have had enough experience and training and counseling now to easily recognize it. its the reason I left the relationship. get some help.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 16:13:03 GMT -7
I see you had a reasonable response then went into this dumb ass shit again, so as far as stolen money it's not stolen. I needed to have the payment in earlier to receive my materials so they pushed it back to Jan 2024. Since they have to ship my books/training materials to me I should've put it in earlier but meh it's a learning process. Secondly we can subepana discord and we'll find you were not leaving me alone like now. We'll see you pushing me and me being victimized and then lashing out cause you caused me emotional/mental duress. The nexus reported to me what you did and I reported a few things so we can further investigate you to keep our sith community safe from criminals like you. Secondly I have a right to warn others about your revenge porn acts and your right that you are toxic which is why I will refund you when I can but on my time. but it's not my priority and honestly you can make up all the fake documents about me and then get in trouble for it. Lying to the court is wrong but by all means please make that mistake. But I suggest against it. Making up lies about tms (my friend terrant) is wrong and while I don't appreciate that we all know it's bullshit. Now shut it Burl. Lol wow you just did it again. good job, keep digging yourself in deeper. I have eye witnesses like zealot, Sasha and raven that witnessed the crimes you committed against me and continue to commit against me. I'm not the one to ever make up legal docs, you are the one that did that and if you think I don't have screen shots your absolutely wrong. so keep it up. I have the truth on my side and you have your continued lies! You are aggressive and demanding. I was the submissive in the relationship, you were the Dom. and you took advantage of me, simple as that. master apprentice yea I was the apprentice, you abused your position and your power and then tried to blame it in me. that is a textbook narcissistic cycle of abuse you perpetrated against me. And believe me, I have had enough experience and training and counseling now to easily recognize it. its the reason I left the relationship. get some help. I am aware your taking screenshots Burl, however what Sasha and raven saw doesn't matter. If they wish to testify against me they can however it won't really help. By all means keep posturing
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Post by VixenV on Jun 16, 2023 19:07:10 GMT -7
Lol wow you just did it again. good job, keep digging yourself in deeper. I have eye witnesses like zealot, Sasha and raven that witnessed the crimes you committed against me and continue to commit against me. I'm not the one to ever make up legal docs, you are the one that did that and if you think I don't have screen shots your absolutely wrong. so keep it up. I have the truth on my side and you have your continued lies! You are aggressive and demanding. I was the submissive in the relationship, you were the Dom. and you took advantage of me, simple as that. master apprentice yea I was the apprentice, you abused your position and your power and then tried to blame it in me. that is a textbook narcissistic cycle of abuse you perpetrated against me. And believe me, I have had enough experience and training and counseling now to easily recognize it. its the reason I left the relationship. get some help. I am aware your taking screenshots Burl, however what Sasha and raven saw doesn't matter. If they wish to testify against me they can however it won't really help. By all means keep posturing Time will tell "Amy" whether you are a liar and a thief or not. It's up to you at this point. I hope you prove me wrong, but I don't expect it. Until then I think this conversation has run its course. take care.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 20:50:57 GMT -7
I am aware your taking screenshots Burl, however what Sasha and raven saw doesn't matter. If they wish to testify against me they can however it won't really help. By all means keep posturing Time will tell "Amy" whether you are a liar and a thief or not. It's up to you at this point. I hope you prove me wrong, but I don't expect it. Until then I think this conversation has run its course. take care. Byeeeeeeeeee! You leave me alone finally yessssssss!!!!!!
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Post by VixenV on Jun 17, 2023 10:42:39 GMT -7
Time will tell "Amy" whether you are a liar and a thief or not. It's up to you at this point. I hope you prove me wrong, but I don't expect it. Until then I think this conversation has run its course. take care. Byeeeeeeeeee! You leave me alone finally yessssssss!!!!!! You misunderstand. I said this conversation is over. You see I have just as much right to "warn the community" about a predator in their midst as you think you do. Your lies are toxic and your skewed narcissistic views are dangerous. You are a predator that abuses others and you should never have another apprentice. You don't get to just use people and throw them away. I will make sure that you never get that opportunity with another. And there are others that are watching you as well.
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Post by Jacen on Jun 18, 2023 4:22:36 GMT -7
Im not familiar with Darth Vectivus? Can you explain further and give your thoughts?
I have been the victim of many bullies in my life and the result is that you fold or you get hard. I chose to get harder but the process is not a pretty one. I learned to stand up for myself. Even in this community I have been bullied. first by TotJO who sent a brigade of knights to harass me on line and most recently by Kurai who is deflecting and projecting in order to cover up her crimes against me.
But my question is, do you think these sorts of tactics are ok for Sith to utilize?
Darth Vectivus was a Sith who learned about the dark side of the Force in solitude and chose not to commit any sort of evil action. He learned simply for the sake of learning. You're right though. As a kid I folded, but inside I kept getting harder. After I graduated, that's when I started taking all that bullshit and channeling it into making myself stronger, mentally, physically, and I suppose spiritually. I know Sith are generally seen as the bad guys, but all I can say is that I could never bully anyone, simply because I know how it feels.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 18, 2023 12:33:26 GMT -7
Im not familiar with Darth Vectivus? Can you explain further and give your thoughts?
I have been the victim of many bullies in my life and the result is that you fold or you get hard. I chose to get harder but the process is not a pretty one. I learned to stand up for myself. Even in this community I have been bullied. first by TotJO who sent a brigade of knights to harass me on line and most recently by Kurai who is deflecting and projecting in order to cover up her crimes against me.
But my question is, do you think these sorts of tactics are ok for Sith to utilize?
Darth Vectivus was a Sith who learned about the dark side of the Force in solitude and chose not to commit any sort of evil action. He learned simply for the sake of learning. You're right though. As a kid I folded, but inside I kept getting harder. After I graduated, that's when I started taking all that bullshit and channeling it into making myself stronger, mentally, physically, and I suppose spiritually. I know Sith are generally seen as the bad guys, but all I can say is that I could never bully anyone, simply because I know how it feels.
Yes there is a difference between perception and hard truth and cruelty just to be cruel. To many people in this community today crave power and this goes for both Jedi and Sith. They pursue titles instead of wisdom and knoweldge. They want things "right now" and have no patience to wait for realizations. I believe this is a product of insecurity on their part. No one wants to be seen as lesser, which is a lie of the ego they have no mastery of to begin with, and so they take titles and demand to be recognized. Its rampant in this community, especially among the young.
And to many others that have been around longer are two quick to grant them these titles and this power. And when they get a bit of the power they abuse the hell out of it. Another product of their lack of perseverance and desire to be seen as something they have no idea about. The old guard was very much this way as well. They were condescending and belittling and arrogant to an extreme. They demanded you approach them in specific ways and interact with them according to a long list of self made up rules. And if you refused to do so they dismissed you, ignored you and spoke about you behind your back.
I gave up the pursuit of titles and power long ago. I am who I am, Just Vixen, not a sith or a master or a darth or whatever else title or mantle of power that exists out there. I dont need it and I dont want it. Its petty and stupid. I want the wisdom and the knowledge and the understanding in realizations. That is where true power lies, not in some stupid title a 20 something year old decided to take while within their little insulated inbred club or in someone threatening you physically or in someone extorting money out of you and then abandoning you. Those are abuses. Anyone that has true power has no need for such abusive tactics.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 25, 2023 17:56:13 GMT -7
So here is an interesting thought. It's been suggested that bullies should be used for drug testing and other genetic experiments because the "contribute nothing to society".
Do you agree with this assessment?
How do you know you are not a bully to another on their subjective opinion? If you are and you dont know it, you just condemed yourself.
What about homeless people? Are they to be condemned to slavery just because of a situation?
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 28, 2023 18:40:44 GMT -7
Subjective opinion, or just opinions in general is nothing to go by. Worse tests have been conducted in the past and we look on them with horror but the people of time didn't care.
Why even talk so much about bullies, are you afraid of something, do you feel weak and subject to aggressive behavior?
As far a the homeless goes, they are not a threat. Stop giving handouts and they will disappear.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 28, 2023 19:46:35 GMT -7
Subjective opinion, or just opinions in general is nothing to go by. Worse tests have been conducted in the past and we look on them with horror but the people of time didn't care. Why even talk so much about bullies, are you afraid of something, do you feel weak and subject to aggressive behavior? As far a the homeless goes, they are not a threat. Stop giving handouts and they will disappear. I am neither weak nor aggressive. I am the peacemaker in my clan. The peaceful warrior in my path. This is why I will not engage you in physical combat unless I have no choice. You see your neanthertal way of thinking is really beneath me. I don't engage in physical combat for fun. I train in physical combat as a last resort. And if I am forced to fight, well to me that means that as a Sith I have already failed my calling and my training. I am the Warrior in the Garden. You are the loudmouth asshole boasting of things you can do because you are mentally weak and psychologically insecure. Do you see the difference? I don't have to prove my worth to you as a Sith. I only have to prove my worth to myself. And through my example, you will learn... or you will not. The choice is not mine, it's yours.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 28, 2023 20:35:37 GMT -7
Peace is a lie.
You are not a peacemaker, you are afraid and you make others just as fearful as yourself. You have become so corrupt in your understanding of the code, what's worse is you you spew your corruption on others calling it wisdom of the Sith.
Just because you have rage, wisdom, and martial skill doesn't make you a Sith. Clearly you are something else, and have proven this with your own words.
No where is it written that we must get along. Let others fight and reach understanding. If their beliefs are true then they will learn to fight harder for them. Instead of always having a peacekeeper to negotiate for them.
You don't help anyone by helping them talk their way out of conflict, you suppress them from being what they wish to be. You create a being so desperate and so used to having a safety net that they never think anything all the way through because if they dont then vixen will be there to save there ass.
It's pathetic that you can't see this. It is pathetic that others let you have such a role. It's pathetic because it goes against the first sentence of my code, the Sith code.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 28, 2023 20:52:51 GMT -7
I continue to find it sad that you miss the nuance of my words. It's not your fault to be sure, it is the incompetence of whatever Sith master trained you.
There exists a balance in all things. Peace is not a lie just because it is peace. Peace is a lie only if you allow it to take control of your life and tell you its deceptions of stagnation. So to, rage can be a lie, if you allow it to take control and let it deceive you into believing that the monster within should rule the world and destroy all it sees. This is your crime, allowing rage to rule your life.
Do you really believe a Sith that is after power will try and achieve that power in such a crude way? Did Palpatine walk into the republic presidents hall and challenge him to a fist fight? No he did not, he won the hearts and minds of the people and let them do his work for him.
Do you see now how weak you are? How pathetic and transparent you are? How do you hope as a Sith to ever hold power by physical force alone? You are a Joke. A character of delusion and false grandeur.
You still have not been able to describe to me what the code means past its first line... what passion is. It seems you stopped reading after "peace is a lie" and forgot about the rest because your muscle head swelled and blood rushed in and replaced all the intelligence.
Try again baby sith... so far you are fucking embarrassing.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 28, 2023 21:06:39 GMT -7
Why must you be a peace keeper for other Sith was my point. So you miss understand. Other Sith don't need a lecture on Palpatine, and I understand this point.
At no time in what I said was I talking about the outside world, but the Sith community inwhich you say you are a part.
Maybe you should read what I say and not get enveloped in you arrogance.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 29, 2023 16:48:38 GMT -7
Why must you be a peace keeper for other Sith was my point. So you miss understand. Other Sith don't need a lecture on Palpatine, and I understand this point. At no time in what I said was I talking about the outside world, but the Sith community inwhich you say you are a part. Maybe you should read what I say and not get enveloped in you arrogance. Why don't you tell me the value of peacekeeping? Even for other Sith? You mention you have never taken a martial art. Perhaps you should and you might start to understand.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2023 19:17:38 GMT -7
Darth Vectivus was a Sith who learned about the dark side of the Force in solitude and chose not to commit any sort of evil action. He learned simply for the sake of learning. You're right though. As a kid I folded, but inside I kept getting harder. After I graduated, that's when I started taking all that bullshit and channeling it into making myself stronger, mentally, physically, and I suppose spiritually. I know Sith are generally seen as the bad guys, but all I can say is that I could never bully anyone, simply because I know how it feels. Hugs.
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Post by lycurgus on Jun 29, 2023 23:39:54 GMT -7
I would never be a peacekeeper between Sith. Nor do I think their is a purpose for one. If someone doesn't see the value of peers and their thoughts then there is no reason to be around. It shows and produces weakness when you have somebody mediating a debate or argument, for it means that those involved are not mature enough to handle themselves.
Even if you are a master in a room of lesser Sith you shouldn't get in the middle. You should allow to stand up for themselves and prove their point, or allow them to lose and learn from their failure. By getting in-between you deny a lesson or a confirmation of knowledge.
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Post by VixenV on Jun 30, 2023 10:57:55 GMT -7
I would never be a peacekeeper between Sith. Nor do I think their is a purpose for one. If someone doesn't see the value of peers and their thoughts then there is no reason to be around. It shows and produces weakness when you have somebody mediating a debate or argument, for it means that those involved are not mature enough to handle themselves. Even if you are a master in a room of lesser Sith you shouldn't get in the middle. You should allow to stand up for themselves and prove their point, or allow them to lose and learn from their failure. By getting in-between you deny a lesson or a confirmation of knowledge.
I never said anything about mediation and I especially never said anything about peacekeeping among Sith engaged in the pursuit of passion. You still show that you fail to see the nuance behind even the first line of the code. Only if you empty that full glass will you ever be able to begin to understand and use the knowledge of this place and the sith that came before you. This is my point. You came here and said you wanted to learn but you also came here calling yourself "darth" whatever. Those two ideas are in conflict within you. You need to resolve that before you can grow. Contrary to popular belief Sith do not actually deal in absolutes. They deal in shades of grey and nuance. This means there is never just one right answer and one wrong answer. All answers have their place in the Sith Paradigm. One mans hero is another mans villain. Think on this for a while and see if you can come to a different place in your life.
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Post by lycurgus on Jul 15, 2023 4:54:02 GMT -7
It seems we will never understand each other. I did come here to learn, wisdom dictates one is never done learning. I do call myself a Darth because no one can take it from me. You would call yourself a Darth if you had a spin, but your fear keeps you under the spell of those whom you preceive to be better than yourself. You think these Dark Lords of the past are better then you because they said things you didnt think of, heres some news for you, they didnt think of them either. they repeat wise words from scholars and philosophers of the past. Yet you fold under the pressure of invisible chains. You take this fourth hand knowledge and call it yours and try to hold it over others. You try to eclipse others by talking shit and preventing any actual intuitive conversation. The Darkside is black and white, there is no grey area. Either you do or you dont. Either you have or you have not. Either you speak or you remain silent. The grey area you speak of is the area where you try to hide your weakness. It is were you say that you have power but not as much as draconis, were you say you are wise but not as wise as khaos.
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