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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 1:05:12 GMT -7
What do you think is the bright side? What do you think is the dark side? Please tell us the differences and similarities between them? When you say Jedi, do you think of jedist people who make the jedi in the totjo a religion and dogmatize it, or do you mean jedi who stay away from such temples and try to destroy dogmas.
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Post by VixenV on Aug 25, 2023 10:53:52 GMT -7
Its these simple and stupid questions that tell me you have never really gained any prowess in the ways of the force.
I have no interest in debating the similarities and differences of the Jedi and the Sith. Its a stupid exercise in futility. One of the very first lessons a Sith learns is that there is no contrast, it is a false dichotomy. Instead Sith are taught to define their reality and their worldview without comparing and contrasting. If you cant define who you are without using these labels then you dont know who you are.
Now I challenge you, Can you define for me who you are? In this challenge you must use I statements and you cant use labels of any kind, nor comparisons or tell me things that you are not. Only define yourself in terms of who you think you are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 12:52:44 GMT -7
Its these simple and stupid questions that tell me you have never really gained any prowess in the ways of the force.
I have no interest in debating the similarities and differences of the Jedi and the Sith. Its a stupid exercise in futility. One of the very first lessons a Sith learns is that there is no contrast, it is a false dichotomy. Instead Sith are taught to define their reality and their worldview without comparing and contrasting. If you cant define who you are without using these labels then you dont know who you are.
Now I challenge you, Can you define for me who you are? In this challenge you must use I statements and you cant use labels of any kind, nor comparisons or tell me things that you are not. Only define yourself in terms of who you think you are.
Ok I accept the terms. First, let me tell you about myself. I am an 18-year-old person who does not like to be in society much (I am a bit antisocial), thinks and questions more than my peers. I am someone with personal anger, but with a great deal of goodness in it. Acting with vengeance and anger is not appropriate for me, it creates more pain and suffering than you can think of afterwards. I am someone who has turned to the dark side due to his anger and some past traumas, but remains in the light as the remaining parts are. Even while meditating for the dark side, I couldn't do anything without my memories and anger. By the way, honor is very important to me. Now some of you will say, "What does your honor serve?" The answer is simple. My honor serves me because it eases my conscience. Some of you will say that honor is only for death. Honor is a term for me that could even be a purpose for me in such a place. I am by no means cruel, on the contrary, I am merciful. But I also do the feeling of compassion according to the measure, and if anyone exploits this feeling, I will notice it and I will be a cruel person for that moment. The people here are the types who want everything to serve them. People in another order are those who want to serve everything. I neither like to serve nor to be served. If there will be a service, I think it can be accepted in a mutual agreement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 13:00:12 GMT -7
Its these simple and stupid questions that tell me you have never really gained any prowess in the ways of the force.
I have no interest in debating the similarities and differences of the Jedi and the Sith. Its a stupid exercise in futility. One of the very first lessons a Sith learns is that there is no contrast, it is a false dichotomy. Instead Sith are taught to define their reality and their worldview without comparing and contrasting. If you cant define who you are without using these labels then you dont know who you are.
Now I challenge you, Can you define for me who you are? In this challenge you must use I statements and you cant use labels of any kind, nor comparisons or tell me things that you are not. Only define yourself in terms of who you think you are.
Ok I accept the terms. First, let me tell you about myself. I am an 18-year-old person who does not like to be in society much (I am a bit antisocial), thinks and questions more than my peers. I am someone with personal anger, but with a great deal of goodness in it. Acting with vengeance and anger is not appropriate for me, it creates more pain and suffering than you can think of afterwards. I am someone who has turned to the dark side due to his anger and some past traumas, but remains in the light as the remaining parts are. Even while meditating for the dark side, I couldn't do anything without my memories and anger. By the way, honor is very important to me. Now some of you will say, "What does your honor serve?" The answer is simple. My honor serves me because it eases my conscience. Some of you will say that honor is only for death. Honor is a term for me that could even be a purpose for me in such a place. I am by no means cruel, on the contrary, I am merciful. But I also do the feeling of compassion according to the measure, and if anyone exploits this feeling, I will notice it and I will be a cruel person for that moment. The people here are the types who want everything to serve them. People in another order are those who want to serve everything. I neither like to serve nor to be served. If there will be a service, I think it can be accepted in a mutual agreement. Here people are taught that their own values are the only truth. This may be true for things that are subjective, but not things that are objective. Or if everyone only thinks about themselves and everyone has a grudge against each other and everyone is a dark side user, there is no friendship or love in this world (even though it's a feeling I don't like, I have to accept it because it's a behavior I have to do for the label I want to use, I have to deserve it) would it happen? Now you will try to explain to me the value of positive feelings like love in your philosophy. For you, love is nothing more than sexual desires or a response. Everyone here is manipulative and two-faced. I am someone who has stopped hating the pain of the past.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 13:01:55 GMT -7
Its these simple and stupid questions that tell me you have never really gained any prowess in the ways of the force.
I have no interest in debating the similarities and differences of the Jedi and the Sith. Its a stupid exercise in futility. One of the very first lessons a Sith learns is that there is no contrast, it is a false dichotomy. Instead Sith are taught to define their reality and their worldview without comparing and contrasting. If you cant define who you are without using these labels then you dont know who you are.
Now I challenge you, Can you define for me who you are? In this challenge you must use I statements and you cant use labels of any kind, nor comparisons or tell me things that you are not. Only define yourself in terms of who you think you are.
VixenV, I've taken off my mask and the person inside isn't exactly fit for this site. And trust me you won't like it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 13:08:32 GMT -7
I am a student of the life. Like you, like everybody. I am not a Sith lord or jedi knight. I am only a student of the life. No matter how strong I become, it is of no use even if I am informed. My education will only end when I die. Because I get my education from life like everyone else and I think he is everyone's only teacher. I will never be a teacher or in the middle segment. I'm still learning and I'll still be learning even though I'm 92
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 13:45:21 GMT -7
Its these simple and stupid questions that tell me you have never really gained any prowess in the ways of the force.
I have no interest in debating the similarities and differences of the Jedi and the Sith. Its a stupid exercise in futility. One of the very first lessons a Sith learns is that there is no contrast, it is a false dichotomy. Instead Sith are taught to define their reality and their worldview without comparing and contrasting. If you cant define who you are without using these labels then you dont know who you are.
Now I challenge you, Can you define for me who you are? In this challenge you must use I statements and you cant use labels of any kind, nor comparisons or tell me things that you are not. Only define yourself in terms of who you think you are.
And if I have to define you for the last time, I will say this: You overreact a little when you see the word Jedi. Then I can deduce the following; You were once a Jedi, or the Jedi must have done something disgusting to you. Everyone knows you're 57 years old and the type to harass women. But I have to ask, if your libido is that high at this age and you seem like a pervert then have you ever had sex or anything like that in your life? If you haven't, these behaviors are perfectly normal, or you didn't look at girls with a sexual instinct in your youth due to social and family pressure, which may prove why you are both a boy and open a topic called "unicorn diaries". I'm not here to make fun of you and crush you. I've come here to do what I've been accused of, and if there's anything I can help with, I'm not afraid to do it because the label I want to use wasn't taught to make fun of people and make fun of their real faces. I was taught to help and befriend those who would be ridiculed in this type of society. I know life isn't all rosy, but if the label I want to use is going to have a purpose, this should be it.
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Post by VixenV on Aug 26, 2023 16:15:39 GMT -7
Why was it anger that turned you to the dark side and not passion? No where in the code does it mention anger. Only the weak allow their emotions to rule them. So what justification do you have for your excuse in weakness?
Why do you classify honor so highly? If you are pursuing your true will in life why does your conscience need soothing? Are you ashamed of who and what you are? If so, why?
You are wrong about what The members of this order want. They don't want everything to serve them. They desire to serve themselves and those they care about first and foremost. What do you wish to serve? What passions drive you? Find the answer to this and your tortured conscience will be relieved.
As for universal values, can you define them and why you believe these universal values exist or who or what enforces them? Sith Serve the things they care about. that includes loved ones and friends. You see sith embrace love as unconditionally as indifference as long as the act remains mutual. What do you love in your life enough, right or wrong, to die for?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 17:13:36 GMT -7
Why was it anger that turned you to the dark side and not passion? No where in the code does it mention anger. Only the weak allow their emotions to rule them. So what justification do you have for your excuse in weakness? Why do you classify honor so highly? If you are pursuing your true will in life why does your conscience need soothing? Are you ashamed of who and what you are? If so, why? You are wrong about what The members of this order want. They don't want everything to serve them. They desire to serve themselves and those they care about first and foremost. What do you wish to serve? What passions drive you? Find the answer to this and your tortured conscience will be relieved. As for universal values, can you define them and why you believe these universal values exist or who or what enforces them? Sith Serve the things they care about. that includes loved ones and friends. You see sith embrace love as unconditionally as indifference as long as the act remains mutual. What do you love in your life enough, right or wrong, to die for? I am not weak in my anger. Because I used my anger as it should be. I only used my anger as a sword and armor. I acted with reason and used my anger if I had to, and as a result I suffered from the sith. Who am I not ashamed of? But I used to hurt a lot of people's hearts unnecessarily. I also smashed one of them on this site (someone who really cares for me). That's why I have a conscience, and the word passion pisses me off a little. My conscience guides me, not passions. For some it is a weakness, for others it is a strength. I know everyone here is power-hungry. But I don't hate you. If I am to hate or defeat one of you in anger, that person will live with me forever. And actually the person I want to destroy there will be a part of me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 17:26:52 GMT -7
Actually, that's exactly what I think. There is no universal moral law, but it has to be. Otherwise, this world would be full of chaos and destruction. In my philosophy, even if there is chaos, one should strive for peace. A little chaos and destruction is good, but too much or in the middle is bad. I know that the concept of honor and honor differs from person to person and this cannot be legalized. But you can punish things like killing a man or stealing before the law, and the examples are very limited. For example, to damage a person's property: you pay as much as the value of the property. Or, if you cut off a person's hand, you will be imprisoned for 5 years. The more equal the penalties and crimes, the more justice will be provided. According to some people, sexually harassing every woman is not a problem, while others may want the death penalty. But having a common law is an absolute must, and the way to comply with these laws is through respect. Nothing can happen without respect.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 17:29:08 GMT -7
Actually, that's exactly what I think. There is no universal moral law, but it has to be. Otherwise, this world would be full of chaos and destruction. In my philosophy, even if there is chaos, one should strive for peace. A little chaos and destruction is good, but too much or in the middle is bad. I know that the concept of honor and honor differs from person to person and this cannot be legalized. But you can punish things like killing a man or stealing before the law, and the examples are very limited. For example, to damage a person's property: you pay as much as the value of the property. Or, if you cut off a person's hand, you will be imprisoned for 5 years. The more equal the penalties and crimes, the more justice will be provided. According to some people, sexually harassing every woman is not a problem, while others may want the death penalty. But having a common law is an absolute must, and the way to comply with these laws is through respect. Nothing can happen without respect. Passions are unhealthy, but when conscience and reason come together, nothing can break it.
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Post by VixenV on Aug 26, 2023 17:30:20 GMT -7
Why was it anger that turned you to the dark side and not passion? No where in the code does it mention anger. Only the weak allow their emotions to rule them. So what justification do you have for your excuse in weakness? Why do you classify honor so highly? If you are pursuing your true will in life why does your conscience need soothing? Are you ashamed of who and what you are? If so, why? You are wrong about what The members of this order want. They don't want everything to serve them. They desire to serve themselves and those they care about first and foremost. What do you wish to serve? What passions drive you? Find the answer to this and your tortured conscience will be relieved. As for universal values, can you define them and why you believe these universal values exist or who or what enforces them? Sith Serve the things they care about. that includes loved ones and friends. You see sith embrace love as unconditionally as indifference as long as the act remains mutual. What do you love in your life enough, right or wrong, to die for? I am not weak in my anger. Because I used my anger as it should be. I only used my anger as a sword and armor. I acted with reason and used my anger if I had to, and as a result I suffered from the sith. Who am I not ashamed of? But I used to hurt a lot of people's hearts unnecessarily. I also smashed one of them on this site (someone who really cares for me). That's why I have a conscience, and the word passion pisses me off a little. My conscience guides me, not passions. For some it is a weakness, for others it is a strength. I know everyone here is power-hungry. But I don't hate you. If I am to hate or defeat one of you in anger, that person will live with me forever. And actually the person I want to destroy there will be a part of me. You contradict yourself... telling me you use your anger as it should be but also that you used it as it shouldn't be, or that you felt regret or remorse or guilt as a result. You do not suffer as a result of the Sith. you suffer as a result of yourself. You don't know yourself You see the shadow in the dark and you are afraid. letting it rule your life rather than confront it and take control of it and then begin to use it as it should be used. Not to gain power. that is not a sith purpose. a Sith purpose is to gain meaning through passion. Do you want to know what it means to be Sith or not? So far you have demonstrated little mastery of the concept.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 18:06:04 GMT -7
I am not weak in my anger. Because I used my anger as it should be. I only used my anger as a sword and armor. I acted with reason and used my anger if I had to, and as a result I suffered from the sith. Who am I not ashamed of? But I used to hurt a lot of people's hearts unnecessarily. I also smashed one of them on this site (someone who really cares for me). That's why I have a conscience, and the word passion pisses me off a little. My conscience guides me, not passions. For some it is a weakness, for others it is a strength. I know everyone here is power-hungry. But I don't hate you. If I am to hate or defeat one of you in anger, that person will live with me forever. And actually the person I want to destroy there will be a part of me. You contradict yourself... telling me you use your anger as it should be but also that you used it as it shouldn't be, or that you felt regret or remorse or guilt as a result. You do not suffer as a result of the Sith. you suffer as a result of yourself. You don't know yourself You see the shadow in the dark and you are afraid. letting it rule your life rather than confront it and take control of it and then begin to use it as it should be used. Not to gain power. that is not a sith purpose. a Sith purpose is to gain meaning through passion. Do you want to know what it means to be Sith or not? So far you have demonstrated little mastery of the concept. Actually, I'm not contradicting myself. Because at the time I had a bit of a hard time controlling myself while using the name Perditus, but I handled it in nullityus. I know myself. I am a seeker of peace and a sufferer. And I know that this pain will not end with passion. If I let the dark side lead me then personal will doesn't matter. The lesson best taught to me was this: when it comes to will, everything else is secondary. According to you, I am not suitable for the term Sith, this is evident from what I have already written. The sith I have learned is the philosophy of the sith that values the will. My only goal is to break the dogmas of the light side by using the dark side and to create a beautiful jedi teaching because I have to lead this path in case someone else wants to go or if others want to go. Everyone suffers because of what they have already done. I have planted the seeds of bitterness that will appear later in my sith and every similar behavior in my life. And now I'm going to bandage my wounds and apologize to the one person I need to apologize to here. Then I will establish an order that is free from dogma, where questioning and freedom are much more than other jedi temples.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 0:34:40 GMT -7
And I've had training on the Sith from 2 different people in my life. Everyone knows my last master, Iycurgus. My master before him agreed with Iycurgus, and I was taught that the Sith is not prey, the Sith are always hunters
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 0:35:23 GMT -7
And the only person I had to apologize to was my first master
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 7:20:59 GMT -7
Finally, I would like to add this. If I surrender myself to the dark side and ignore my will and let the dark side lead me, then I will be no different from a dark jedi. This is the difference between the Sith and the Dark Jedi. One emphasizes the will, while the other embraces the possibility of the dark side breaking free and acting irrationally. I wasn't a dark jedi. I was a sith.
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Post by VixenV on Aug 27, 2023 18:59:42 GMT -7
What does the change of a name have to do with anything? Once again you are basing your reality on labels. This is a fools superficial undertaking. I ask again, who are you without using labels?
If you are not worthy of the term sith, then why are you even here? You want to use the wrong tool for the right job and yet you openly admit you dont even want to master this tool. You are wasting your time, pretending you are something you are not, trying to achieve something you never will, unless you wake up and take personal accountability for Yourself and your actions. Do you want something? how much are you willing to sacrifice? If not everything then you are a coward. Pick a fucking path and stop acting like you know something you obviously do not know.
Lycurgus is a fool and so I must conclude that his master was also a fool. They have no understanding of the code or what it means. This is obvious because you are just as ignorant. I look for substance, no superficial posturing and self agrandizing, false claiming titles they have no idea the meaning of. It takes a lifetime my friend. If your not committed to this you are a poser, full of empty promise and meaningless cult power only. You are their cult disciple, their victim. The first lesson you must learn is that you know nothing, no one can teach you nothing, you just need to know. Then, and only then may you start to gain wisdom.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 19:36:37 GMT -7
What does the change of a name have to do with anything? Once again you are basing your reality on labels. This is a fools superficial undertaking. I ask again, who are you without using labels? If you are not worthy of the term sith, then why are you even here? You want to use the wrong tool for the right job and yet you openly admit you dont even want to master this tool. You are wasting your time, pretending you are something you are not, trying to achieve something you never will, unless you wake up and take personal accountability for Yourself and your actions. Do you want something? how much are you willing to sacrifice? If not everything then you are a coward. Pick a fucking path and stop acting like you know something you obviously do not know. Lycurgus is a fool and so I must conclude that his master was also a fool. They have no understanding of the code or what it means. This is obvious because you are just as ignorant. I look for substance, no superficial posturing and self agrandizing, false claiming titles they have no idea the meaning of. It takes a lifetime my friend. If your not committed to this you are a poser, full of empty promise and meaningless cult power only. You are their cult disciple, their victim. The first lesson you must learn is that you know nothing, no one can teach you nothing, you just need to know. Then, and only then may you start to gain wisdom. There were two reasons for my name change. The first was that I made too many mistakes using that name, and the second was that it was a fake name. Who I really am is written above. I am weak in passion, but indestructible in anger and hatred. The sith is different for everyone, some put anger in the foreground, some passion. Sith code is something written by a handful of playwrights (I'm not neglecting jedi code). If a philosopher wrote the codes, I wouldn't say that. With my anger and pain, I meditated for 2 hours every day. I forced myself to do this. I know what my anger and pain can do to me, but since I'm not developed in terms of passion, I can't dive deep as you would say. I'll bet I'm brave of most of the people here. But since my passions haven't developed, I see it as worthless because I don't have time for it. I will devote time to passion, I give more importance to the education of that Indian, well-knowledgeable, 8-year-old jedist in totjo. Because I learn more. Maybe you don't know, but we call it utilitarian philosophy. Smarty-Pants. Iycurgus is one of the smartest people out there, and make up your mind. If the man denounces you and takes your position, you will go to the grave. The man read and learned more than you. I guess you were interested in harassing the women here at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 19:41:13 GMT -7
Finally, whenever Iycurgus says that his training is over, then I will drop the name Nullityus. 2 different personalities for me. I called my anger and hatred nullityus. I called my mercy and my compassion and my tolerance Quinlan. That's what it's all about. I just have a habit of classifying everything
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 19:44:57 GMT -7
Even if my studies are over, I will stay here because there is someone I need to apologize for and I am waiting patiently for him. So I try to be active every day
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