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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 12:03:42 GMT -7
That's great, so how do you embody the jedi code? How does that go into daily life and the experience as a whole? For example, when someone tries to pay attention to me, I remain silent and do not care. My mind feels relaxed and peaceful. I try to stay away from people and stay away from chaos. When I get into an argument, I say my word and never open my mouth again. Meditations done in public are beautiful. It is good to be able to meditate at any time, but this cannot be as valuable as taking the time to meditate for about 1 hour. Sith meditation can be done even while walking on a normal road because you feel the chaos, but Jedi meditation requires effort and time, but in return it gives a very nice gift. Wisdom, better analysis ability, etc.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 25, 2023 15:11:33 GMT -7
For example, when someone tries to pay attention to me, I remain silent and do not care. My mind feels relaxed and peaceful. I try to stay away from people and stay away from chaos. When I get into an argument, I say my word and never open my mouth again. Meditations done in public are beautiful. It is good to be able to meditate at any time, but this cannot be as valuable as taking the time to meditate for about 1 hour. Sith meditation can be done even while walking on a normal road because you feel the chaos, but Jedi meditation requires effort and time, but in return it gives a very nice gift. Wisdom, better analysis ability, etc. Do you feel that Sith meditation does not provide the same sort of wisdom?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 15:41:02 GMT -7
Sith meditation can be done even while walking on a normal road because you feel the chaos, but Jedi meditation requires effort and time, but in return it gives a very nice gift. Wisdom, better analysis ability, etc. Do you feel that Sith meditation does not provide the same sort of wisdom? Sith meditation is valuable, it keeps people fit, but when it comes to wisdom, yes, Sith meditation gives wisdom similar to the same wisdom, but Jedi meditation is superior in this regard by a small margin, but Sith meditation can be done at any time and develops quickly. While there is speed and practicality on one side, wisdom stands out on the other. The differences I mentioned are very close to each other. In short, one side has no advantage over the other. Both give great power to their users.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 25, 2023 15:54:12 GMT -7
Do you feel that Sith meditation does not provide the same sort of wisdom? Sith meditation is valuable, it keeps people fit, but when it comes to wisdom, yes, Sith meditation gives wisdom similar to the same wisdom, but Jedi meditation is superior in this regard by a small margin, but Sith meditation can be done at any time and develops quickly. While there is speed and practicality on one side, wisdom stands out on the other. The differences I mentioned are very close to each other. In short, one side has no advantage over the other. Both give great power to their users. I would disagree. jedi meditation requires the cessation of progress in a quiet and chaos free environment. In effect the practitioner has to remove themself from the rigors of the real world and so any wisdom gained is wisdom that is not of practical use in the real world efforts of the individual. As a result the Jedi become disconnected from the reality of life and this opens the doors to allow the Sith to always win in their struggle against the Jedi. The Siths "active meditation" is a form that is highly adaptive and incredibly powerful! You see one does not need the wisdom of the past ages because those ideas are not relevant in any current struggle for power. They only serve as comforts to the conquered that use them to adopt their slavery as a form of newfound reverence. Such as Neitzchie teaches.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 19:34:25 GMT -7
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Post by VixenV on Oct 25, 2023 20:07:25 GMT -7
No thanks. I don't listen to talentless hacks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 20:19:56 GMT -7
No thanks. I don't listen to talentless hacks. That was for Quin not you but no worries if you don't want to listen. Since your in a feisty mood there is where I sign off because I will not tolerate or deal with this today.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 25, 2023 20:43:20 GMT -7
No thanks. I don't listen to talentless hacks. That was for Quin not you but no worries if you don't want to listen. Since your in a feisty mood there is where I sign off because I will not tolerate or deal with this today. Well... Bye.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 21:33:50 GMT -7
Sith meditation is valuable, it keeps people fit, but when it comes to wisdom, yes, Sith meditation gives wisdom similar to the same wisdom, but Jedi meditation is superior in this regard by a small margin, but Sith meditation can be done at any time and develops quickly. While there is speed and practicality on one side, wisdom stands out on the other. The differences I mentioned are very close to each other. In short, one side has no advantage over the other. Both give great power to their users. I would disagree. jedi meditation requires the cessation of progress in a quiet and chaos free environment. In effect the practitioner has to remove themself from the rigors of the real world and so any wisdom gained is wisdom that is not of practical use in the real world efforts of the individual. As a result the Jedi become disconnected from the reality of life and this opens the doors to allow the Sith to always win in their struggle against the Jedi. The Siths "active meditation" is a form that is highly adaptive and incredibly powerful! You see one does not need the wisdom of the past ages because those ideas are not relevant in any current struggle for power. They only serve as comforts to the conquered that use them to adopt their slavery as a form of newfound reverence. Such as Neitzchie teaches. Jedi meditation escapes reality only in its initial phase because its goal is to first feel the force. In the next phase, whatever their real problem is, they focus on it and a peaceful solution is found for the individual until the indecision ends. We can do something similar to your practicality, but yours is more practical with a slight difference because Sith, in my opinion, is choosing the easy way. Personally, I owe my practicality to the stab wound on my wrist. Whenever I feel darkness, I look there and use the light. The story of the wound on my wrist is important to me, so it creates practicality.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 25, 2023 22:20:36 GMT -7
I would disagree. jedi meditation requires the cessation of progress in a quiet and chaos free environment. In effect the practitioner has to remove themself from the rigors of the real world and so any wisdom gained is wisdom that is not of practical use in the real world efforts of the individual. As a result the Jedi become disconnected from the reality of life and this opens the doors to allow the Sith to always win in their struggle against the Jedi. The Siths "active meditation" is a form that is highly adaptive and incredibly powerful! You see one does not need the wisdom of the past ages because those ideas are not relevant in any current struggle for power. They only serve as comforts to the conquered that use them to adopt their slavery as a form of newfound reverence. Such as Neitzchie teaches. Jedi meditation escapes reality only in its initial phase because its goal is to first feel the force. In the next phase, whatever their real problem is, they focus on it and a peaceful solution is found for the individual until the indecision ends. We can do something similar to your practicality, but yours is more practical with a slight difference because Sith, in my opinion, is choosing the easy way. Personally, I owe my practicality to the stab wound on my wrist. Whenever I feel darkness, I look there and use the light. The story of the wound on my wrist is important to me, so it creates practicality. Hmm, how is shunning emotion and avoiding attachment the "easy way". It seems like the cowards way to me. You can't face the pain of reality so you pretend it does not exist or that you can avoid it. This is the fantasy that Jedi meditation creates. The lie that reality is not actually what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 22:01:31 GMT -7
Jedi meditation escapes reality only in its initial phase because its goal is to first feel the force. In the next phase, whatever their real problem is, they focus on it and a peaceful solution is found for the individual until the indecision ends. We can do something similar to your practicality, but yours is more practical with a slight difference because Sith, in my opinion, is choosing the easy way. Personally, I owe my practicality to the stab wound on my wrist. Whenever I feel darkness, I look there and use the light. The story of the wound on my wrist is important to me, so it creates practicality. Hmm, how is shunning emotion and avoiding attachment the "easy way". It seems like the cowards way to me. You can't face the pain of reality so you pretend it does not exist or that you can avoid it. This is the fantasy that Jedi meditation creates. The lie that reality is not actually what it is. When will you learn the true Jedi philosophy? Escaping from emotions and commitment existed only in the dogmatic Jedi of the High Republic era in Star Wars. What you said is not even in totjo. I don't know where you learn about the Jedi, but there's a herb out there somewhere because it's something no sane sith could write. The real jedi is much different. I think it would be very difficult to explain this to a person with dementia. A jedi does not run away from his emotions, and a jedi has the greatest devotion (like a serious mind). Are you judging the Jedi by taking an example from the Star Wars universe? Then you will get what you want. Darth Revan said that the reason why the Jedi of that period were strong was that they could establish families and make loyalty, but now they have become dogmatic and weak. Loyalty is something a Jedi must have, and with that he has hope. When you have hope, you have the opportunity to use the darkness even a little bit, but this is only valid for duels. That's why he can't be a sith or a gray jedi. So it moves on a light gray path, just like Luke's Jedi order in the Legends universe. The feeling of pain is an emotion that a Jedi must scratch, but if pain becomes inevitable, he must embrace it. The emotions a Jedi thrives on are positive ones, and with that he becomes peaceful. A jedi must always seek peace rather than anger and passion, which can easily get caught up in him, and he must train himself for this. While it is easy to get carried away by the dark side, letting go of it and being patient and feeling the harmony is compatible with all lines of the Jedi code.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 27, 2023 16:42:27 GMT -7
Is it typical for this new form of Jedi you claim to exist to speak out of both sides of their mouth.
You say a Jedi does not run away from emotions. Later you say jedi seek peace rather than anger and passion.
You say a Jedi must have loyalty. Later you say that because of this he has the opportunity to use the darkness, an aspect of the Force that is void of loyalty and embraces individualism.
You ask me condescendingly if I am taking examples from the movies. Later you cite an example in "LEGENDS" to make your point.
You say grey Jedi can't exist and later you mention a "light grey" path. What exactly is a light grey path if not a shade of grey??!!
You say that for a Jedi pain is enevitable and must be embraced. Yet later you say a Jedi should never allow themself to be carried away by the Dark.
Do you even know what a jedi is? How do you define a jedi? Can you tell me without using comparisons to other paths or using examples from a science fiction movie or stories? Why are you a Jedi? What attributes defines you as something different than another who is compassionate but does not call themselves a Jedi? Can you tell me?
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Post by Darth Draconis on Oct 29, 2023 1:55:54 GMT -7
No thanks. I don't listen to talentless hacks. It's actually pretty neat imo Wish more people made stuff like this. Or like this: The more, the merrier.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 29, 2023 13:21:43 GMT -7
No thanks. I don't listen to talentless hacks. It's actually pretty neat imo Wish more people made stuff like this. Or like this: The more, the merrier.
Are you suggesting that I may have been to harsh in my evaluation? Perhaps I have been. My medium is the written word. Others forte is online media, music and etc. I find all these aspects of expression meaningful and relevant in their own way.
I also do not believe anyone here has nothing to contribute. No matter their beliefs or desires or pursuits or philosophies; one can find meaning in any form of expression if they are willing to be open and look hard enough and honestly enough. My personal disputes aside, this is how I try to spend my time in places such as this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 12:09:34 GMT -7
Is it typical for this new form of Jedi you claim to exist to speak out of both sides of their mouth. You say a Jedi does not run away from emotions. Later you say jedi seek peace rather than anger and passion. You say a Jedi must have loyalty. Later you say that because of this he has the opportunity to use the darkness, an aspect of the Force that is void of loyalty and embraces individualism. You ask me condescendingly if I am taking examples from the movies. Later you cite an example in "LEGENDS" to make your point. You say grey Jedi can't exist and later you mention a "light grey" path. What exactly is a light grey path if not a shade of grey??!! You say that for a Jedi pain is enevitable and must be embraced. Yet later you say a Jedi should never allow themself to be carried away by the Dark. Do you even know what a jedi is? How do you define a jedi? Can you tell me without using comparisons to other paths or using examples from a science fiction movie or stories? Why are you a Jedi? What attributes defines you as something different than another who is compassionate but does not call themselves a Jedi? Can you tell me? It's rare for Jedi to use both sides like me, but it's not an advantage.
A Jedi should normally embrace positive emotions, but if unavoidable he should also feel negative emotions. But as I said, this is valid if it is inevitable. According to what you wrote, the only emotions are negative emotions.
Please let me tell you the truth, negative emotion is emotion and equal to positive emotion.
As I said in that article, I gave examples of what I needed to do from where you gave examples.
The reason for the little darkness found in light gray is that it shows that I will use the dark side in a short time due to dogmas and people who will use my Jedi philosophy as a weakness against me. Gray jedi is different from the jedi path. Gray jedi= (jedi +sith) /2.
There is a measure when using darkness, and it is necessary to learn to use it without missing this measure where pain is inevitable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 12:20:17 GMT -7
Is it typical for this new form of Jedi you claim to exist to speak out of both sides of their mouth. You say a Jedi does not run away from emotions. Later you say jedi seek peace rather than anger and passion. You say a Jedi must have loyalty. Later you say that because of this he has the opportunity to use the darkness, an aspect of the Force that is void of loyalty and embraces individualism. You ask me condescendingly if I am taking examples from the movies. Later you cite an example in "LEGENDS" to make your point. You say grey Jedi can't exist and later you mention a "light grey" path. What exactly is a light grey path if not a shade of grey??!! You say that for a Jedi pain is enevitable and must be embraced. Yet later you say a Jedi should never allow themself to be carried away by the Dark. Do you even know what a jedi is? How do you define a jedi? Can you tell me without using comparisons to other paths or using examples from a science fiction movie or stories? Why are you a Jedi? What attributes defines you as something different than another who is compassionate but does not call themselves a Jedi? Can you tell me? A Jedi is one who feels anger but chooses peace. A jedi is one who strives to become wise while being ignorant. A Jedi is someone who tries to stay away from the turmoil and chaos in society and devotes his life to serenity. A jedi must navigate adverse situations with constant determination. He should never allow negative emotions to completely take over him. A Jedi must have his own moral code, but must respect the moral code of others. Otherwise, chaos will prevail. A Jedi can only bring balance to the force to his maximum circle. He can't do this for others because if we try to control other people it will make them even more vain. This makes chaos prevail again. A Jedi must know the moderation of passions. He must know what that passion will do to him and give it up when he realizes that it has a harmful consequence.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 31, 2023 17:18:47 GMT -7
Is it typical for this new form of Jedi you claim to exist to speak out of both sides of their mouth. You say a Jedi does not run away from emotions. Later you say jedi seek peace rather than anger and passion. You say a Jedi must have loyalty. Later you say that because of this he has the opportunity to use the darkness, an aspect of the Force that is void of loyalty and embraces individualism. You ask me condescendingly if I am taking examples from the movies. Later you cite an example in "LEGENDS" to make your point. You say grey Jedi can't exist and later you mention a "light grey" path. What exactly is a light grey path if not a shade of grey??!! You say that for a Jedi pain is enevitable and must be embraced. Yet later you say a Jedi should never allow themself to be carried away by the Dark. Do you even know what a jedi is? How do you define a jedi? Can you tell me without using comparisons to other paths or using examples from a science fiction movie or stories? Why are you a Jedi? What attributes defines you as something different than another who is compassionate but does not call themselves a Jedi? Can you tell me? A Jedi is one who feels anger but chooses peace. A jedi is one who strives to become wise while being ignorant. A Jedi is someone who tries to stay away from the turmoil and chaos in society and devotes his life to serenity. A jedi must navigate adverse situations with constant determination. He should never allow negative emotions to completely take over him. A Jedi must have his own moral code, but must respect the moral code of others. Otherwise, chaos will prevail. A Jedi can only bring balance to the force to his maximum circle. He can't do this for others because if we try to control other people it will make them even more vain. This makes chaos prevail again. A Jedi must know the moderation of passions. He must know what that passion will do to him and give it up when he realizes that it has a harmful consequence. Your definition is inconsistent. You say a jedi feels anger but chooses peace but you also imply that a jedi can choose anger if the jedi decides it serves them. How do you never allow a so called "negative" emotion to overtake them? what percentage is too much? How do you gage such a thing? Once you open that door it becomes a slippery slope downwards. simply put I don't believe you. I don't believe anyone is capable of such a thing. You can't have it both ways. You are either of the dark or of the light, never both. So how do you resolve this dilema? And mind you, I know the answer to this question already. I want to see if you really understand what your saying though.
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Post by VixenV on Oct 31, 2023 17:26:28 GMT -7
Is it typical for this new form of Jedi you claim to exist to speak out of both sides of their mouth. You say a Jedi does not run away from emotions. Later you say jedi seek peace rather than anger and passion. You say a Jedi must have loyalty. Later you say that because of this he has the opportunity to use the darkness, an aspect of the Force that is void of loyalty and embraces individualism. You ask me condescendingly if I am taking examples from the movies. Later you cite an example in "LEGENDS" to make your point. You say grey Jedi can't exist and later you mention a "light grey" path. What exactly is a light grey path if not a shade of grey??!! You say that for a Jedi pain is enevitable and must be embraced. Yet later you say a Jedi should never allow themself to be carried away by the Dark. Do you even know what a jedi is? How do you define a jedi? Can you tell me without using comparisons to other paths or using examples from a science fiction movie or stories? Why are you a Jedi? What attributes defines you as something different than another who is compassionate but does not call themselves a Jedi? Can you tell me? It's rare for Jedi to use both sides like me, but it's not an advantage.
A Jedi should normally embrace positive emotions, but if unavoidable he should also feel negative emotions. But as I said, this is valid if it is inevitable. According to what you wrote, the only emotions are negative emotions.
Please let me tell you the truth, negative emotion is emotion and equal to positive emotion.
As I said in that article, I gave examples of what I needed to do from where you gave examples.
The reason for the little darkness found in light gray is that it shows that I will use the dark side in a short time due to dogmas and people who will use my Jedi philosophy as a weakness against me. Gray jedi is different from the jedi path. Gray jedi= (jedi +sith) /2.
There is a measure when using darkness, and it is necessary to learn to use it without missing this measure where pain is inevitable. On the contrary, I never labeled emotions as positive or negative. You did that. so what makes an emotion positive or negative? Do you know? You call yourself jedi, and by definition of the title you follow the light side. but you also seem ok delving beyond those boundaries if you get in trouble. so I ask what value does any organization have that is willing to compromise its morals just to continue to live on? doesn't that very act destroy the integrity of the institution? So why call yourself jedi?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2023 16:38:09 GMT -7
I argue that it is only appropriate to use anger in extremely difficult situations. It should not be used for profit purposes. The difference between them is obvious: on one side, the person uses it for defensive purposes and as a last resort, while on the other side, the person uses it in all situations that are likely to benefit him.
A person possessed by negative emotions either loses control and becomes a dark jedi, or his soul becomes corrupted. Therefore, when using darkness, it is necessary to pay extreme attention to that line. Such a thing cannot be measured, it is something that varies greatly from person to person. I almost literally corrupted my soul when I used the name Nullityus, it is a good thing to have a master who draws me back to the light.
Being part of only one side gives a lot of power, but it leaves the person dogmatic or striving for their passions aimlessly. I use both sides even if I don't want to and it makes me strong. I was once a Sith. So even when I tried to dedicate myself to pure light, darkness would always try to show itself. Once you enter the dark side it will follow you forever.
Resolving the dilemma between darkness and light requires a lot of time, a lot of meditation, and let's not forget a lot of experience.
I did not imply that he divided emotions into positive and negative. This is something I already do. If you want to distinguish between positive emotions and negative emotions, you will notice it when you are calm, peaceful and positive. In other words, this is something that a Sith who lives a life full of passion cannot do.
For a jedi; A person who gets into trouble should temporarily give up his calmness, not his morality. It will be a very narrow example, but let me give this example again: A man swears for no reason and gets angry at you. It's best for a Jedi to walk away, no matter what the man says, right? But if a fight is inevitable, I think one should use anger.
So I am not looking at this issue from a moral perspective. I look at the situation from an angry and aggressive perspective. If a Jedi's morality is at stake, he must die for it if necessary. Because these are their own values. A person's own values are the values that a person gives to himself.
I haven't been around in a long time because I'm building a neopixel lightsaber. I spend all my free time on my lightsaber. I'm not a person who buys parts and builds them. I am someone who builds from scratch.
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Post by VixenV on Nov 5, 2023 17:23:27 GMT -7
I argue that the definition of "extremely difficult" Will become a slippery slope that the jedi that gives in to the dark will begin to justify using more and more for less and less "difficult" situations. This is where your failure lies. Even the motive of "self defense" has a profit motive; That profit being the preservation of one's own life.
So I challenge you to prove that you are not being a hypocrite in your claiming the title of Jedi. Any use of the dark makes one not Jedi but Sith. You want to pretend that is not the case but there is no getting around the fact that I can see. If you use the dark side, even a little bit, you are sith. This idea of "corruption" is a social construct; an imaginationary idea that you have invented to justify your position. To put it plainly, You feel guilty, and you want to create this middle ground between good and evil, some sort of dead zone to comfort Yourself, but for what, where does it exist? If there is no soul governed by a body other than the self, there is nothing to corrupt. So you are left with the challenge to prove something judges us as "good or evil". Can you prove such a system exists?
If not it seems to me that you have simply replaced one dogma with another. You have no new thoughts that have not been presented befefore. You are a dissapointment, especially in the fact that you have failed to answer my question above.
How do you resolve the struggle between the light and the dark that exists in us all?
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